Comments on: Mace Rogue? http://www.myrddin.de Just another MMO Games site Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:41:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Slanthttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Slant Fri, 21 May 2010 16:51:19 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-55 What do you expect? This post is from Vanilla and early TBC. Lots of things have changed ;-) What do you expect? This post is from Vanilla and early TBC. Lots of things have changed ;-)

]]> By: PVE Rogueshttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-54 PVE Rogues Fri, 21 May 2010 12:12:28 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-54 Hehe this blog post really made me laugh :) Hehe this blog post really made me laugh :)

]]> By: Swayhttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Sway Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:25:46 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-53 Hey, Well i've got pretty good gear and Am mace specd, I've just gone Hemo build with BF and AR but ooosh, I can do silly dmg my Hemos are critting for 1900 dmg! just silly :D i've got DragowMaw btw. Hey, Well i’ve got pretty good gear and Am mace specd, I’ve just gone Hemo build with BF and AR but ooosh, I can do silly dmg my Hemos are critting for 1900 dmg! just silly :D i’ve got DragowMaw btw.

]]> By: Slanthttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Slant Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:26:45 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-52 Well a 5% proc Chance is nothing you can really count on, especially not with low hit ratings. For Combat Rogues it is not the usage of combopoints that matters, you basically need to reapply slice and dice and then every other finishing move either as eviscerate or rupture. Combat Potency is what makes the combat tree nowadays really powerful. To maximize its effect, and to get a a higher chance of stunproccs, you need a lot of hit rating though and lot sof haste. I can imagine that with Tier III BS Mace your Sinister Strikes will do an insane amount of damage for a moderate cost of energy - unfortunatel yI do not have exact numbers, but for my rogue above with the tier I bs mace and low ap I already did more than half the damage on a crit with sinister strike than with eviscerate. I have the Tier III mace for my shaman and the difference from the Tier I mace is just huge. Also the haste effect will fit in vey well with what I described above. I absolutely love it. But honestly I have been Combat Mace Rogue since 2005 and never tried Mutilate or Hemo builds. You will lose a lot of burst damage and gain some steady dps over time. I suggest you check the rogue builds of the top guilds on the world and see what they have. Well a 5% proc Chance is nothing you can really count on, especially not with low hit ratings. For Combat Rogues it is not the usage of combopoints that matters, you basically need to reapply slice and dice and then every other finishing move either as eviscerate or rupture.
Combat Potency is what makes the combat tree nowadays really powerful. To maximize its effect, and to get a a higher chance of stunproccs, you need a lot of hit rating though and lot sof haste. I can imagine that with Tier III BS Mace your Sinister Strikes will do an insane amount of damage for a moderate cost of energy – unfortunatel yI do not have exact numbers, but for my rogue above with the tier I bs mace and low ap I already did more than half the damage on a crit with sinister strike than with eviscerate.
I have the Tier III mace for my shaman and the difference from the Tier I mace is just huge. Also the haste effect will fit in vey well with what I described above. I absolutely love it.
But honestly I have been Combat Mace Rogue since 2005 and never tried Mutilate or Hemo builds. You will lose a lot of burst damage and gain some steady dps over time. I suggest you check the rogue builds of the top guilds on the world and see what they have.

]]> By: GaiJinhttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-51 GaiJin Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:49:03 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-51 Well... this has been of great help....I just happened to come by this site http://shadowpanther.net/, where there are a guide to level blacksmithing to 360 with the drakefist like that, so I started looking for others using maces, to see i fit could be any good....Reason:1. I'm a dagger right now, and feel like trying something else plus the fact that mutilate will be a waste in higher instances with poison resitent mobs.2. theire gonna nerf sword-spec next patch, making it so that a proc cant proc on a proc (sounded wierd). Same will happend with shammys windfury.The only thing I am abit worried about is the combo points generation.... As I said, I am a Mutilate rogue, and hae also been a Sub-specced both dagger and fist, and those generate combos like crazy. I know you have gone all the way down the combat tree, and the assassination tree with 17 pts.And a question... how often do you proc the stun thingy from maces. Can you count on it in a fight (PvP or normal mobs). Raid encounters might be immune, I know... Well… this has been of great help….

I just happened to come by this site http://shadowpanther.net/, where there are a guide to level blacksmithing to 360 with the drakefist like that, so I started looking for others using maces, to see i fit could be any good….

Reason:

1. I’m a dagger right now, and feel like trying something else plus the fact that mutilate will be a waste in higher instances with poison resitent mobs.

2. theire gonna nerf sword-spec next patch, making it so that a proc cant proc on a proc (sounded wierd). Same will happend with shammys windfury.

The only thing I am abit worried about is the combo points generation…. As I said, I am a Mutilate rogue, and hae also been a Sub-specced both dagger and fist, and those generate combos like crazy. I know you have gone all the way down the combat tree, and the assassination tree with 17 pts.

And a question… how often do you proc the stun thingy from maces. Can you count on it in a fight (PvP or normal mobs). Raid encounters might be immune, I know…

]]> By: Slanthttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Slant Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:25:05 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-50 Thanks, the Gem looks really nice and a 5% procc chance is definitely worth it. Have to try it out :-) Thanks, the Gem looks really nice and a 5% procc chance is definitely worth it. Have to try it out :-)

]]> By: Diggshttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-49 Diggs Wed, 30 May 2007 21:08:25 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-49 Hey Slant... you're blog has been an inspiration. I finally got my hands on the helm of assassination and when I went to browse the available meta gems I found one that boosts haste and I nabbed it. It offers a 5% chance per melee/ranged strike to increase haste by 240! for 6 seconds. That boost is the biggest that I've found so far (second only to S&D). At this point I have the blackout truncheon in my off-hand (Runic in my main) and both have the mongoose enchants (2% boost and a double proc isn't uncommon).In my opinion, the haste gem is a definite must have for the whole "high speed bludgeoning" thing - to maximize stuns and combat potency. Hey Slant… you’re blog has been an inspiration. I finally got my hands on the helm of assassination and when I went to browse the available meta gems I found one that boosts haste and I nabbed it. It offers a 5% chance per melee/ranged strike to increase haste by 240! for 6 seconds. That boost is the biggest that I’ve found so far (second only to S&D). At this point I have the blackout truncheon in my off-hand (Runic in my main) and both have the mongoose enchants (2% boost and a double proc isn’t uncommon).

In my opinion, the haste gem is a definite must have for the whole “high speed bludgeoning” thing – to maximize stuns and combat potency.

]]> By: Slanthttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Slant Fri, 04 May 2007 08:52:24 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-48 I was very unlucky with Abacusof Violent Odds so far. I am also not sure if I would use it. It has some advantages on fights with vulnerability phases.Are you sure, that all Haste is added up?Doing some quick math Dragonstrike = 200 Rating; Assassination = 160 Rating; Blackout Truncheon = 132 Rating; 492 Rating = 31% Speed (15,8 per 1%) + Bladefurry (20%) + Slice and Dice (30%) + Heroism (30%) = 110%Well a 110% speed inrease should make the weapon 0,0 Speed ;-) But looking at the Screenshot its roughly at 33% speed of normal. So I think at some point I do get more effect on Bladefists Breadth, which inreases every hit by 40-50 Max Damage.I dislike the short duration from Abacus and am might prefer Kiss of the Spider, since the Haste Duration is 50% longer. Too bad noone is going Naxxramas anymore ;-) I was very unlucky with Abacusof Violent Odds so far. I am also not sure if I would use it. It has some advantages on fights with vulnerability phases.

Are you sure, that all Haste is added up?

Doing some quick math Dragonstrike = 200 Rating; Assassination = 160 Rating; Blackout Truncheon = 132 Rating; 492 Rating = 31% Speed (15,8 per 1%) + Bladefurry (20%) + Slice and Dice (30%) + Heroism (30%) = 110%

Well a 110% speed inrease should make the weapon 0,0 Speed ;-) But looking at the Screenshot its roughly at 33% speed of normal. So I think at some point I do get more effect on Bladefists Breadth, which inreases every hit by 40-50 Max Damage.

I dislike the short duration from Abacus and am might prefer Kiss of the Spider, since the Haste Duration is 50% longer. Too bad noone is going Naxxramas anymore ;-)

]]> By: Balthomashttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Balthomas Thu, 03 May 2007 13:41:04 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-47 Have you thought about getting the abicus of violent odds? I use it on my main, a dps warrior, witch when fury spec (witch im not often beacuse im one of those omg pvp warriors with deep thunder who always has to be pvp spec 35/23/3) I duelwield Dragonmaw/King's Defender (kings is my tanking sword and i havent put time into a real offhand yet) With Dragonmaw proc'd, Flurry applyed, Heroism, and the abicus poped i was doing some rediculas dps, (on the order of 2000dps+) this was the aran fight so aggro dident matter so much. It took some farming of mechanar to get it but i think this item is definately worth the grind. beings its Roughly a 25% speed increase every 2 mins, and stacks with other speed increases. Have you thought about getting the abicus of violent odds? I use it on my main, a dps warrior, witch when fury spec (witch im not often beacuse im one of those omg pvp warriors with deep thunder who always has to be pvp spec 35/23/3) I duelwield Dragonmaw/King’s Defender (kings is my tanking sword and i havent put time into a real offhand yet) With Dragonmaw proc’d, Flurry applyed, Heroism, and the abicus poped i was doing some rediculas dps, (on the order of 2000dps+) this was the aran fight so aggro dident matter so much. It took some farming of mechanar to get it but i think this item is definately worth the grind. beings its Roughly a 25% speed increase every 2 mins, and stacks with other speed increases.

]]> By: Slanthttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Slant Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:47:03 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-46 Well I am too poor to get Mongoose atm :-) I am working on my 5th 70 atm and I cannot really fit them all with the best atm :-) Once the Shammy is 70 I will start upgrading the Rogues Gear. I am kind of waiting till the 2.1 Patch and Rogues have imprved sap. Well I am too poor to get Mongoose atm :-) I am working on my 5th 70 atm and I cannot really fit them all with the best atm :-) Once the Shammy is 70 I will start upgrading the Rogues Gear. I am kind of waiting till the 2.1 Patch and Rogues have imprved sap.

]]> By: Zarchaoshttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Zarchaos Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:01:37 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-45 Yep i agree a very fast offhand is good for combat potentcy. Im just so sick of PvP and jus decided to get Runic =[ However im gona get dual mongoose, that plus SnD, Bf, Drakefist proc and Abbacus more than makes up for the speed of Runic in comparision to Blackout as well as Runic's higher Dps. Yep i agree a very fast offhand is good for combat potentcy. Im just so sick of PvP and jus decided to get Runic =[ However im gona get dual mongoose, that plus SnD, Bf, Drakefist proc and Abbacus more than makes up for the speed of Runic in comparision to Blackout as well as Runic’s higher Dps.

]]> By: Slanthttp://www.myrddin.de/world-of-warcraft/mace-rogue/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Slant Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:53:28 +0000 http://www.myrddin.de/mace-rogue/#comment-44 Well I really prefer the to speed up the weapons a lot and thus I think Blackout Truncheon is a better Offhand. Here is the latest Screenshot. Notice the insane Speed from all procs. Bladefurry, Haste (Assassination Bonus), Haste (Dragonstrike), Blinding Speed Blackout Truncheon & ofc Slice and Dice.   Lots of energy from Combat Potency & white numbers flying all over the screen. Well I really prefer the to speed up the weapons a lot and thus I think Blackout Truncheon is a better Offhand. Here is the latest Screenshot. Notice the insane Speed from all procs. Bladefurry, Haste (Assassination Bonus), Haste (Dragonstrike), Blinding Speed Blackout Truncheon & ofc Slice and Dice.   Lots of energy from Combat Potency & white numbers flying all over the screen.

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